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What the Consensus on Hunter?

I haven't been on these forums for awhile (since before Hunter's release) because I took a good break from the game. But recently I've gotten a whole lot more into it and am playing a lot. Why? Well it's 100% because of Hunter for me. He's exaclty what this game needed: a skill based merc who's deadly in the right hands and sucks in the wrong ones. No explosives or cheap "hit e" kills, he's entirely based on skill. DB needs 100% more Hunter type mercs and 100000000% less Javelins. But I haven't been on the forums so what are the general thoughts on him? Does the community like or hate him? He's not played often in pubs so that's either cuz of his high skill ceiling or because people just hate him.

P.S. he has the best voice lines in the game.

What the Consensus on Hunter? 42 votes

I would hunt Hunter's ass I love him so much
0%
Hunter's a well-rounded boi
19%
Freezer_Bosshawkeyeguy99GatoCommodoreMuddyGrenadeMr.CuddlesworthOminous_Da_MummyJus71c3 8 votes
Meh
57%
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Hunter's not a well-rounded boi
16%
SzakalotSorotiateflonloveBryckohenki000Rokon2SiwaonaDaphnewen 7 votes
He might as well be Donald Trump I hate him so much
7%
376E1AE459B1WulieSplicerrr 3 votes

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Comments

  • enigmaplatypusenigmaplatypus Posts: 243
    edited May 15
    Meh

    I think that hunter is ok. For me he's only someone i'll use when i want to have fun. I would never take him into a competitive scene at all (i guess with ranked gone that's not a problem at the moment). I notice that he can be really good in the right hands, but definitely not mine. What I have been noticing in my limited experience with him though is that you really have to have good ping. Because his arrows are so precise and have travel time, i find that high ping makes him useless. At least for me that's the case. I wish his arrows were a lot faster (more like a real arrow), but that's probably a balance thing.

  • imLegalimLegal Posts: 65
    Meh

    I enjoy playing Hunter he's pretty good, balanced, and his EMP bow has helped me and teammates a ton. I especially enjoy the salt ride by nature that comes with using him, those headshot kills drive people nuts.

  • henki000henki000 Posts: 458
    edited May 15
    Hunter's not a well-rounded boi

    I would rework crossbow. Make it work like real one, not like sparks revive rifle. It takes time to reload and when you shoot, kinetic energy will rip almost everything on your way. You get only one arrow at time and you cant boost it like it was longbow. EMP bolt should stuck and work like EMP mine, it stays there for longer time. When someone puts sky shield or health station in it's radius, it will not work and get penalty. You can destroy EMP bolt, but everything affected by penalty, does not work for certain time.

    I didnt hit Trump, because I like Ryburn and Arevarov.
    Ulu? Not that much, but something like meh tier.

  • SzakalotSzakalot Posts: 3,251
    edited May 15
    Hunter's not a well-rounded boi

    i dont like the poll. Its asking both about power level and how much fun he is to play.

    Hunter is fun to play, but he sucks. He sucks bad. Maybe in a 7v7 you can spam a choke and enjoy your kills on clueless opponents. Against good players scoring a hit at anything but shortest ranges is pure lotto. People move too fast and unpredictably to make any sensible leading. At that point he is just a weaker vassili with a useless EMP ability

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  • GatoCommodoreGatoCommodore Posts: 4,388
    Hunter's a well-rounded boi

    @Szakalot said:
    i dont like the poll. Its asking both about power level and how much fun he is to play.

    Hunter is fun to play, but he sucks. He sucks bad. Maybe in a 7v7 you can spam a choke and enjoy your kills on clueless opponents. Against good players scoring a hit at anything but shortest ranges is pure lotto. People move too fast and unpredictably to make any sensible leading. At that point he is just a weaker vassili with a useless EMP ability

    it doesnt feel like hes a long range merc tho
    i play him at medium range-short range with playstyle similar to TF2 huntsman, except huntsman doesnt have zoom

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  • XernyXerny Posts: 80
    Meh

    Hunter is pretty okay.

    Never played him but he looks quite fun and powerful, his EMP is also pretty useful.

  • SorotiaSorotia Posts: 1,538
    Hunter's not a well-rounded boi

    @GatoCommodore said:

    @Szakalot said:
    i dont like the poll. Its asking both about power level and how much fun he is to play.

    Hunter is fun to play, but he sucks. He sucks bad. Maybe in a 7v7 you can spam a choke and enjoy your kills on clueless opponents. Against good players scoring a hit at anything but shortest ranges is pure lotto. People move too fast and unpredictably to make any sensible leading. At that point he is just a weaker vassili with a useless EMP ability

    it doesnt feel like hes a long range merc tho
    i play him at medium range-short range with playstyle similar to TF2 huntsman, except huntsman doesnt have zoom

    But the problem is he s built to be a long range merc....and people play him like a long range merc. There are some people who are actually pretty good with bow at longer ranges but it's really hard to do.

    Which only makes things worse because just like Vasilli, the newbs will buy him, stay in back and spam, and be useless. But often even more useless because of the higher skill level the CB takes than even sniper rifles.

  • bgyoshibgyoshi Posts: 1,212
    edited May 15
    Meh

    Never seen a good Hunter and never will unless he changes

    Bow spamming only works on people that run in straight lines and can't aim, bow-aiming is too slow and loses to every sniper or mid to close range fight, primary is good but doesn't have enough ammo, secondary is.. a secondary, unique melee is worthless

    Any class is unbeatably good in the hands of someone with ridiculous aim. Obviously I've seen top score Hunters but always in the hands of players that always top score anyway.

    "High skill ceiling" is a code phrase for "extremely weak and requires strong aim to use effectively" in pretty much every situation, this one included.

    I made a big list of changes when he came out, I stick by them even today. He's bad, but could be useful some day.

  • B_MontielB_Montiel Posts: 1,126
    edited May 15

    I've seen a couple of people using him very well, generally people who are generally very good at sparks. Currently he does not add anything to the game.

    Caution has to be taken to his bow. With some tweaks improving it, it definitely can become the OP merc Sparks was when she was released. I dont think we need that. The 1 htk ability on most merc when scoped and instagib on 80hp merc is already powerful enough.

    The way other clients receives hits and vision of the projectile trajectory has to be improved because its definitely awful right now.

  • SzakalotSzakalot Posts: 3,251
    edited May 16
    Hunter's not a well-rounded boi

    personally id like his EMP to get some love. It could for example create a 5sec ‚tesla’ sphere that disables anything going through (like stickies) and also does some light disruption damage: e.g. 5hp per tick. Just enough to encourage people to gtfo.

    Currently you can push an aura station, EMP disable the bunker, whip out MP and... face a pissed off aura with blishlok that will rek your face as you try to press your advantage.
    There is no incentive to move out of the station area, best just wait till the disable wears off. Compare it to stoker’s molotov, bigger AoE, will stripp off half HP of anyone on the station, and push the Aura with 120hp assualt rifle.

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  • jooshoyesjooshoyes Posts: 347
    Meh

    Personally like playing hunter, but I agree he is literally worse than other snipers at everything other than him having an emp, which is barely useful.I like the mechanic @Szakalot suggested, could be used to be a Fletcher counter especially. Tbh, I would rather nerf/rework the other snipers rather than buff hunter, as I believe he is stronger than other snipers at mid range multikills as well as recovering better from missing/hitting a bodyshot.

  • Mr.CuddlesworthMr.Cuddlesworth Posts: 386
    Hunter's a well-rounded boi

    He's mostly fine, although an auto crossbow would be more fun

  • SorotiaSorotia Posts: 1,538
    Hunter's not a well-rounded boi

    @bgyoshi said:
    Never seen a good Hunter and never will unless he changes

    Bow spamming only works on people that run in straight lines and can't aim, bow-aiming is too slow and loses to every sniper or mid to close range fight, primary is good but doesn't have enough ammo, secondary is.. a secondary, unique melee is worthless

    Any class is unbeatably good in the hands of someone with ridiculous aim. Obviously I've seen top score Hunters but always in the hands of players that always top score anyway.

    "High skill ceiling" is a code phrase for "extremely weak and requires strong aim to use effectively" in pretty much every situation, this one included.

    I made a big list of changes when he came out, I stick by them even today. He's bad, but could be useful some day.

    Makes me wonder if we will see a good merc again, every since Javelin it feels like they're making the new mercs underwhelming so the masses wont cry nerf the first time they're killed by one. (Just look at Guardian, people were crying nerf before we even knew the stats)

  • STARRYSOCKSTARRYSOCK Posts: 1,751
    Meh

    @Sorotia said:

    @bgyoshi said:
    Never seen a good Hunter and never will unless he changes

    Bow spamming only works on people that run in straight lines and can't aim, bow-aiming is too slow and loses to every sniper or mid to close range fight, primary is good but doesn't have enough ammo, secondary is.. a secondary, unique melee is worthless

    Any class is unbeatably good in the hands of someone with ridiculous aim. Obviously I've seen top score Hunters but always in the hands of players that always top score anyway.

    "High skill ceiling" is a code phrase for "extremely weak and requires strong aim to use effectively" in pretty much every situation, this one included.

    I made a big list of changes when he came out, I stick by them even today. He's bad, but could be useful some day.

    Makes me wonder if we will see a good merc again, every since Javelin it feels like they're making the new mercs underwhelming so the masses wont cry nerf the first time they're killed by one. (Just look at Guardian, people were crying nerf before we even knew the stats)

    Most of the comments I saw on Guardian were that she needed buffs though, besides a couple arty mains.
    And well, she's still a bit iffy in a competitive environment.

    I'd much rather underwhelming than overwhelming though. Do you remember how horrible the first week with javelin was? Lol

  • HadronZodiacHadronZodiac Posts: 336
    edited May 17
    Meh

    Hunter has his moments, but tbh he is only good at one thing, emp-ing them deployables. And even then, if you emp a bush turret while it's still going up it doesn't emp it which is just stupid. Devs intended him to be a sniper, but more range = more lead, aka worse chance of hitting enemy. Also, his spot is quite honestly the worst recon ability in the game. Any bad player uses him, and no spots or damage. A good player uses him and the enemy just gets killed, no support. A recon is meant for giving the team a strategy, knowing where the enemies are located and disrupting their automatic support (deployables). His crossbow spreads very quickly, so even if you lead perfectly you don't have a large chance of hitting, so skilled players can't even survive unscoped. Hunter is quite honestly the most interesting recon (imo) yet he has his flaws. The hitbox of the arrow is just weird, colliding with basically everything except the enemy. Spot as said, is way too short to be useful. His ulus are terrible, they can't even hit the base of turtle's shield (it's been tested). The "fire-rate" of the ulus don't matter if they can't hit anything. He gets out sniped by every other sniper, his crossbow takes time to reach their target while others can just pop a shot and find cover, which is just annoying.

    He just emps and kills. Basically sniper phantom.....

  • HadronZodiacHadronZodiac Posts: 336
    Meh

    @GatoCommodore said:

    @Szakalot said:
    i dont like the poll. Its asking both about power level and how much fun he is to play.

    Hunter is fun to play, but he sucks. He sucks bad. Maybe in a 7v7 you can spam a choke and enjoy your kills on clueless opponents. Against good players scoring a hit at anything but shortest ranges is pure lotto. People move too fast and unpredictably to make any sensible leading. At that point he is just a weaker vassili with a useless EMP ability

    it doesnt feel like hes a long range merc tho
    i play him at medium range-short range with playstyle similar to TF2 huntsman, except huntsman doesnt have zoom

    Same! He is meant for longer range yet he feels like an Alaskan Redeye. I think if they changed his playstyle to a slightly longer ranged "redeye" i'd play him till I got arthritis and died!

  • teflonloveteflonlove Posts: 671
    Hunter's not a well-rounded boi

    @HadronZodiac said:
    I think if they changed his playstyle to a slightly longer ranged "redeye" i'd play him till I got arthritis and died!

    Is your usage of past tense in the last part of the sentence intentional? :worried:

    There is no ELO acronym, the Elo rating is named after the guy who invented it.

  • HadronZodiacHadronZodiac Posts: 336
    Meh

    @teflonlove said:

    @HadronZodiac said:
    I think if they changed his playstyle to a slightly longer ranged "redeye" i'd play him till I got arthritis and died!

    Is your usage of past tense in the last part of the sentence intentional? :worried:

    naw i just like past tense, why?

  • SorotiaSorotia Posts: 1,538
    Hunter's not a well-rounded boi

    @STARRYSOCK said:

    @Sorotia said:

    @bgyoshi said:
    Never seen a good Hunter and never will unless he changes

    Bow spamming only works on people that run in straight lines and can't aim, bow-aiming is too slow and loses to every sniper or mid to close range fight, primary is good but doesn't have enough ammo, secondary is.. a secondary, unique melee is worthless

    Any class is unbeatably good in the hands of someone with ridiculous aim. Obviously I've seen top score Hunters but always in the hands of players that always top score anyway.

    "High skill ceiling" is a code phrase for "extremely weak and requires strong aim to use effectively" in pretty much every situation, this one included.

    I made a big list of changes when he came out, I stick by them even today. He's bad, but could be useful some day.

    Makes me wonder if we will see a good merc again, every since Javelin it feels like they're making the new mercs underwhelming so the masses wont cry nerf the first time they're killed by one. (Just look at Guardian, people were crying nerf before we even knew the stats)

    Most of the comments I saw on Guardian were that she needed buffs though, besides a couple arty mains.
    And well, she's still a bit iffy in a competitive environment.

    I'd much rather underwhelming than overwhelming though. Do you remember how horrible the first week with javelin was? Lol

    No I don't, because I didn't think it was horrible...I adjusted and moved on. I didn't cry nerf as soon as a merc was released because I got killed by a long cooldown ability. Yes there were nerfs needed...but like with Stoker they both were over-nerfed.

    I didn't cry nerf with Phantom...even was called a Phantom main because I wasn't screaming OMG nerf. Now look at him...easier to see than ever. Another over-nerf because people can't handle losing to something.

  • STARRYSOCKSTARRYSOCK Posts: 1,751
    edited May 19
    Meh

    @Sorotia said:

    No I don't, because I didn't think it was horrible...I adjusted and moved on. I didn't cry nerf as soon as a merc was released because I got killed by a long cooldown ability. Yes there were nerfs needed...but like with Stoker they both were over-nerfed.

    I didn't cry nerf with Phantom...even was called a Phantom main because I wasn't screaming OMG nerf. Now look at him...easier to see than ever. Another over-nerf because people can't handle losing to something.

    Don't get angry with me, it's fine to have opinions on how you want the game to play out. I'm not going to go into merc balance and whether or not they were overnerfed, but just understand not everyone feels the same way about abilities like the rocket launcher or cloak being in DB as they were.
    And when the majority of a game's community dislikes something, it's understandable that they're going to be vocal about it. Especially since SD doesn't usually respond to anything besides "crying".

    Point being, just because you don't share the same views on how DB should play out doesn't mean everyone else is whiny and wrong. Javelin was nerfed because most people didn't find her enjoyable to fight against. Maybe you did, and that's fine, but it's in SD's best interest to follow what the majority of its players want, not what the minority wants. I have plenty of unpopular opinions too but you don't see me calling everyone with other views "whiners" or whatever

  • HadronZodiacHadronZodiac Posts: 336
    Meh

    @Sorotia said:

    @STARRYSOCK said:

    @Sorotia said:

    @bgyoshi said:
    Never seen a good Hunter and never will unless he changes

    Bow spamming only works on people that run in straight lines and can't aim, bow-aiming is too slow and loses to every sniper or mid to close range fight, primary is good but doesn't have enough ammo, secondary is.. a secondary, unique melee is worthless

    Any class is unbeatably good in the hands of someone with ridiculous aim. Obviously I've seen top score Hunters but always in the hands of players that always top score anyway.

    "High skill ceiling" is a code phrase for "extremely weak and requires strong aim to use effectively" in pretty much every situation, this one included.

    I made a big list of changes when he came out, I stick by them even today. He's bad, but could be useful some day.

    Makes me wonder if we will see a good merc again, every since Javelin it feels like they're making the new mercs underwhelming so the masses wont cry nerf the first time they're killed by one. (Just look at Guardian, people were crying nerf before we even knew the stats)

    Most of the comments I saw on Guardian were that she needed buffs though, besides a couple arty mains.
    And well, she's still a bit iffy in a competitive environment.

    I'd much rather underwhelming than overwhelming though. Do you remember how horrible the first week with javelin was? Lol

    No I don't, because I didn't think it was horrible...I adjusted and moved on. I didn't cry nerf as soon as a merc was released because I got killed by a long cooldown ability. Yes there were nerfs needed...but like with Stoker they both were over-nerfed.

    I didn't cry nerf with Phantom...even was called a Phantom main because I wasn't screaming OMG nerf. Now look at him...easier to see than ever. Another over-nerf because people can't handle losing to something.

    Yup, people just can't see things objectively. OMG I DIED BY AN ABILITY NERFFF, what they don't realize is that that "ability" has a 30 second cooldown so stfu kid.

  • EB7D6B26E341EB7D6B26E341 Posts: 39
    edited May 19

    In the wording of the poll, you should be asking me what I think about Hunter, not what I think other people will think, I think. :)

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  • hawkeyeguy99hawkeyeguy99 Posts: 646
    Hunter's a well-rounded boi

    To step in here for a second, I love Hunter. He's crazy fun and I think he's really balanced and doesn't need many if any changes. Yeah, he's not as good as other snipers, but I like the challenge. I personally think his emp could be stronger, but he's a decent asset to any team if the person can aim and account for target travel time. Maybe he could use a slight buff to make him more viable but I honestly don't see the need for it right now. The poll is more just to see what other people think about him and I definitely got a good idea of how the community feels about the character.

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  • EB7D6B26E341EB7D6B26E341 Posts: 39
    edited May 20

    @hawkeyeguy99 said:
    The poll is more just to see what other people think about him and I definitely got a good idea of how the community feels about the character.

    I get that, but that is not what you are asking. You should be asking what they think (i.e. 'What is your oppinion about Hunter?'), not what they think other people think (i.e 'What is the concensus on Hunter?')

    My pedantic point being, asking the question 'What is the concensus on Hunter?' only takes the correct meaning while you ask youself; it is what you want to know: what do other people think about Hunter? So you should ask them. Instead you asked yourself in public and there by asking the wrong question. Now you are not asking people what they think about Hunter, you are asking them what they think other people think about Hunter, which is not what you want.

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  • SorotiaSorotia Posts: 1,538
    edited May 21
    Hunter's not a well-rounded boi

    @STARRYSOCK said:

    @Sorotia said:

    No I don't, because I didn't think it was horrible...I adjusted and moved on. I didn't cry nerf as soon as a merc was released because I got killed by a long cooldown ability. Yes there were nerfs needed...but like with Stoker they both were over-nerfed.

    I didn't cry nerf with Phantom...even was called a Phantom main because I wasn't screaming OMG nerf. Now look at him...easier to see than ever. Another over-nerf because people can't handle losing to something.

    Don't get angry with me, it's fine to have opinions on how you want the game to play out. I'm not going to go into merc balance and whether or not they were overnerfed, but just understand not everyone feels the same way about abilities like the rocket launcher or cloak being in DB as they were.
    And when the majority of a game's community dislikes something, it's understandable that they're going to be vocal about it. Especially since SD doesn't usually respond to anything besides "crying".

    Point being, just because you don't share the same views on how DB should play out doesn't mean everyone else is whiny and wrong. Javelin was nerfed because most people didn't find her enjoyable to fight against. Maybe you did, and that's fine, but it's in SD's best interest to follow what the majority of its players want, not what the minority wants. I have plenty of unpopular opinions too but you don't see me calling everyone with other views "whiners" or whatever

    And you wonder why the game is in such poor shape? They listen to the casual whiners...the losers who can't adjust...they flat out appeal to the newbs and brush off vets.

    Like a dozen different newb packages but nothing that would really appeal to vets but a new obsidian every few months.

    I mean they killed the only game mode that actually had a little appeal to vets and was nothing more but free skins to the unachieving newbs who don't even care about trying to get better.

    Instead of balance they nerf things to hell or leave things broken that benefit newbs...liek shotguns and their spray and pray bunnyhopping stlye. They finally fix one Proxy bug and a even bigger one appears.

  • XenithosXenithos Posts: 1,761Special Editor
    Meh

    @hawkeyeguy99 said:
    He's exaclty what this game needed: a skill based merc who's deadly in the right hands and sucks in the wrong ones. No explosives or cheap "hit e" kills, he's entirely based on skill. DB needs 100% more Hunter type mercs and 100000000% less Javelins.
    P.S. he has the best voice lines in the game.

    I would far from saying it's cheap, but he DOES take a considerable amount of skill... Here's the problem, Hunter does what all the other snipers or roles do far worse. Phantom can sneak in his EMP and wreak havoc at close-medium range. Aimee has dominance at long range, and if you want a spammy sniper playstyle pick her up with the PDP or grandeur. Vassili is your "well balanced boi" and both Vassili and Aimee spot for FAR LONGER than Hunter does. Hunter's little spot whenever he hits someone literally lasts like a second. It's terrible. And I think spamming his ability wasn't meant to be something...

    Not to mention that his ulu is less preferable than the stiletto, even after the update that fixed it's hitbox.

    However, instant kill on 80 hp mercs with a charged chest shot? Instant full kill on a headshot on Thunder or lower? That's pretty cool, if you can land your hit.

    Overall he's meh. He's very useless when it comes to filling out a role well, and he has no bearing on the 5v5 competitive atmosphere of the game. Though admittedly he can be fun in clueless pubs where no one comes at you like they should. Also, your rage at Javelin is a little strange considering that in my eyes she's NEARLY perfectly balanced. Anyone with great skill will use her extremely well, and there's only so much her panzer really brings to the table in games where players are properly communicating and positioning. If you have no skill, she is still usable, not great. Not to mention that her rocket by itself isn't perfect for taking down the EV, while every other fire support can handle that better than she can.

    I don't care how much you've played or how good your aim is - If you haven't touched the game at least twice in three months then I see your "opinion" as hot moot.

  • STARRYSOCKSTARRYSOCK Posts: 1,751
    Meh

    @Sorotia said:

    And you wonder why the game is in such poor shape? They listen to the casual whiners...the losers who can't adjust...they flat out appeal to the newbs and brush off vets.

    Like a dozen different newb packages but nothing that would really appeal to vets but a new obsidian every few months.

    I mean they killed the only game mode that actually had a little appeal to vets and was nothing more but free skins to the unachieving newbs who don't even care about trying to get better.

    Instead of balance they nerf things to hell or leave things broken that benefit newbs...liek shotguns and their spray and pray bunnyhopping stlye. They finally fix one Proxy bug and a even bigger one appears.

    Not saying that DB is great or that the devs have been making the best decisions with regards to it. I'm saying feedback from new players is just as important, if not more, than veterans. I'm saying this as a DB veteran myself. Like I said, something can be fair but not enjoyable. If a new player doesn't find the game fun, they likely won't stick around, regardless of whether or not it's balanced.

    Besides, not all veterans want the same thing anyways. I'm not the only veteran who disliked Javelin on release. I'm not the only veteran who rarely played exe either.

    Simply put, people play games for different reasons. Some people like a hardcore permadeath experience, other people like a more casual and fun-focused experience. Neither party is wrong, they just have different tastes. And I've seen those preferences shared by both veterans and new players alike.
    Calling someone a loser for wanting to enjoy a game instead of sucking up something they dislike is just silly, especially since you've done a lot of complaining about DB as well instead of "just sucking it up and adjusting", lol

    TL;DR, again, not trying to be rude in any way, but please understand it's alright to have different preferences on how you want DB to play out. People who disagree with you aren't always noobs who don't understand the game, and even then a new player's view of the game is still important for the devs to consider. There is no one path to balance, the devs need to consider what everyone wants, not just one minority.

  • BryckoBrycko Posts: 223
    Hunter's not a well-rounded boi

    I think the devs missed a huge opportunity with Hunter to encourage an anti-Phanton/anti-flanker playstyle with the halrious shortness of the duration of the spotting, and didn't completely balance his crossbow. The projectile time makes things more difficult, sure, but the crossbows spamminess and lack of balance just sort of makes him cheesy, and not the nice high-skill playstyle experience that I had to learn to use him effectivetly that I was hoping for. He feels too static. I was hoping he would be DBs equivalent of Jackal from RS6, a character that punishes and hunts careless enemies, so I'm kinda disappointed at his missed potential.

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