Psychological Manipulation in Matchmaking

Right now i support the idea that we abolish Matchmaking altogether.

Hammock - Oh the Bliss (Reinterpretation) | Far Cry 5
                                                                

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  • Mc1412013Mc1412013 Posts: 2,287

    Place a noob against a pro and they get jealous to buy items or they never play a gain

    Hey look i finaly got a sig , and nothing to put here

  • GatoCommodoreGatoCommodore Posts: 4,323

    @Mc1412013 said:
    Place a noob against a pro and they get jealous to buy items or they never play a gain

    the really bad thing is they will match people who keep winning or on a streak into a losing match so the other team would win for the sake of winning and injecting more into addiction

    this is very unethical and borderline manipulative, hell, i think this is manipulative.

    Hammock - Oh the Bliss (Reinterpretation) | Far Cry 5
                                                                    
  • Mc1412013Mc1412013 Posts: 2,287
    edited January 7

    Its all about profits and not about the players. Inwork for a big company that is contracted by a biger company and all of us on the field are pushes to wprk in harsh coditions from 0F temps to 1+ plus ft of snow to borderline huricain winds. While sups and up are either home or in the office. Thursdays show huricane still wasnt enough to shut things down i.literaly told my boss im leaving this is b.s my personal car isnt made for snow and got him to ahut my route down but not before working 6 hours in the blizard

    So when these companies are doing every thing to shake down a player into giving up there allowance i beleive it. Thats why i like db its free and money is optional for now. They can dangle weapons skins infront of me and have 30 popups but at the end of day i dont need skins i need skill and luck to out snipe a pro. But i do buy oprative obsidans with real money to support the game and the ocasional trinket as well. Every thing else is either ingame curancy or idont need it

    Games that require money to win usualy get instantly deleted after the free trial period ends.

    Hey look i finaly got a sig , and nothing to put here

  • GatoCommodoreGatoCommodore Posts: 4,323

    @Mc1412013 said:
    Its all about profits and not about the players. Inwork for a big company that is contracted by a biger company and all of us on the field are pushes to wprk in harsh coditions from 0F temps to 1+ plus ft of snow to borderline huricain winds. While sups and up are either home or in the office. Thursdays show huricane still wasnt enough to shut things down i.literaly told my boss im leaving this is b.s my personal car isnt made for snow and got him to ahut my route down but not before working 6 hours in the blizard

    Ive been a consultant for almost 12 years now, i was working on office stable job when i was 27 but, lets just say the lower peons will be and has always been treated like crap. Got out of the states and offered some jobs in Aus to be a consultant. Since then ive been working from home or a hotel if i need to get overseas. After working like this for so long, it feels tiring and i miss my desk-job.

    back to topic, yes.
    like i said earlier, its injecting more factor to the addiction, that is for the sake of profits.

    Hammock - Oh the Bliss (Reinterpretation) | Far Cry 5
                                                                    
  • teflonloveteflonlove Posts: 611

    On the positive side, if the described patents are approved, it will be more expensive to implement this for other game developers. Ideally only games by EA and Activision will use them, which makes it easier to avoid such games.

    Forget the cobalt Kawaii stick, better listen to some Kawaii rock.

  • @Mc1412013 said:
    Its all about profits and not about the players. Inwork for a big company that is contracted by a biger company and all of us on the field are pushes to wprk in harsh coditions from 0F temps to 1+ plus ft of snow to borderline huricain winds. While sups and up are either home or in the office. Thursdays show huricane still wasnt enough to shut things down i.literaly told my boss im leaving this is b.s my personal car isnt made for snow and got him to ahut my route down but not before working 6 hours in the blizard

    So when these companies are doing every thing to shake down a player into giving up there allowance i beleive it. Thats why i like db its free and money is optional for now. They can dangle weapons skins infront of me and have 30 popups but at the end of day i dont need skins i need skill and luck to out snipe a pro. But i do buy oprative obsidans with real money to support the game and the ocasional trinket as well. Every thing else is either ingame curancy or idont need it

    Games that require money to win usualy get instantly deleted after the free trial period ends.

  • Mc1412013Mc1412013 Posts: 2,287

    @Mr.Cuddlesworth said:

    @Mc1412013 said:
    Its all about profits and not about the players. Inwork for a big company that is contracted by a biger company and all of us on the field are pushes to wprk in harsh coditions from 0F temps to 1+ plus ft of snow to borderline huricain winds. While sups and up are either home or in the office. Thursdays show huricane still wasnt enough to shut things down i.literaly told my boss im leaving this is b.s my personal car isnt made for snow and got him to ahut my route down but not before working 6 hours in the blizard

    So when these companies are doing every thing to shake down a player into giving up there allowance i beleive it. Thats why i like db its free and money is optional for now. They can dangle weapons skins infront of me and have 30 popups but at the end of day i dont need skins i need skill and luck to out snipe a pro. But i do buy oprative obsidans with real money to support the game and the ocasional trinket as well. Every thing else is either ingame curancy or idont need it

    Games that require money to win usualy get instantly deleted after the free trial period ends.

    That was thursdays snowpocolyps

    Hey look i finaly got a sig , and nothing to put here

  • henki000henki000 Posts: 426

    Should be implemented to Dirty Bomb. If it gives you more players, money and notorious evil reputation. It would probably mean unfair games for everyone all day long, what could possibly go wrong? Balance isn't fun, balance is science. People will still play EA or Activision games after this shocking reveal. Actually it will be great advertising when we will read years lasting lawsuits from news. I quess they could hire someone to sue big company with idea of losing it. When that conspiracy reveals, they could do it again, destroying reputation charts in universal scale. I would definitely try game titled "most brainwashing game from the most evil gangster organization" "do not play, it's illegal" as my last thoughts in my mind before irresistible shopping spree and engagement.

    http://forums.dirtybomb.com/discussion/38351/new-dev-video-the-future-of-balance#latest
    According to this, they are working on gameplay telemetry system, I wonder if they also added their version of "EOMM". It's actually a miracle if they didn't have any telemetry or engagement. If I was SD I would totally do it and not tell anyone. And then I would laught on my way to bank.

  • OwynTylerOwynTyler Posts: 355

    @GatoCommodore said:
    the really bad thing is they will match people who keep winning or on a streak into a losing match

    wait, isn't that a standart thing? LoL have been doing this for years...

  • GatoCommodoreGatoCommodore Posts: 4,323

    @OwynTyler said:

    @GatoCommodore said:
    the really bad thing is they will match people who keep winning or on a streak into a losing match

    wait, isn't that a standart thing? LoL have been doing this for years...

    it has never been a "STANDARD" thing.
    this is a scummy tactic.

    Hammock - Oh the Bliss (Reinterpretation) | Far Cry 5
                                                                    
  • Mc1412013Mc1412013 Posts: 2,287
    edited January 9

    Hey look i finaly got a sig , and nothing to put here

  • GatoCommodoreGatoCommodore Posts: 4,323

    @Mc1412013

    well i havent bought another EA games since BF4
    and im quite pleased with BF4 but still disappointing launch.

    i mean if people keep falling into the same trash EA been shelling out, i think those kind of people really have poor life choices.

    Hammock - Oh the Bliss (Reinterpretation) | Far Cry 5
                                                                    
  • XenithosXenithos Posts: 1,701Special Editor

    I'm still pissed off about my purchase of their Zombies:GW2 game which seems so much harder to play and do well at, and they only have like a two hour window of good matchmaking queues to even get into a match on PC.

    I don't care how much you've played or how good your aim is - If you haven't touched the game at least twice in three months then I see your "opinion" as hot moot.

  • SorotiaSorotia Posts: 1,501

    @GatoCommodore said:
    @Mc1412013

    well i havent bought another EA games since BF4
    and im quite pleased with BF4 but still disappointing launch.

    i mean if people keep falling into the same trash EA been shelling out, i think those kind of people really have poor life choices.

    But it isn't always the same trash...SWBF1 it was a half game and then you needed to buy DLC for the other...for SWBF2 it's the rigged card development system.

    Wont be shocked if they try some new BS if they make a third, sure they're thinking of new ways to @$!# over the player in the name of profit.

  • AlbinMattAlbinMatt Posts: 1,131

    That is.. scary to say the least. Have this actually gone through?

  • GatoCommodoreGatoCommodore Posts: 4,323

    @AlbinMatt said:
    That is.. scary to say the least. Have this actually gone through?

    i doubt the people who provided the research to EA is the first one to found this method.
    it is most likely that others have found this and kept it a secret

    Hammock - Oh the Bliss (Reinterpretation) | Far Cry 5
                                                                    
  • AlbinMattAlbinMatt Posts: 1,131

    @GatoCommodore said:

    @AlbinMatt said:
    That is.. scary to say the least. Have this actually gone through?

    i doubt the people who provided the research to EA is the first one to found this method.
    it is most likely that others have found this and kept it a secret

    Well, I doubt rigging things for profit was ever a secret for any business, but it's rather concerning when we're talking about a competitive game, and not stocks or gambling

    Though this system would stem from wanting to promote the lootboxes huh?

  • teflonloveteflonlove Posts: 611
    edited January 10

    @AlbinMatt said:
    That is.. scary to say the least. Have this actually gone through?

    As the article mentioned in the video says EA implement the increase/decrease in opponent skill after certain win/loss tuples, which increased player engagement up to 9% (but had no impact on monetization).

    Forget the cobalt Kawaii stick, better listen to some Kawaii rock.

  • GatoCommodoreGatoCommodore Posts: 4,323

    @AlbinMatt said:

    @GatoCommodore said:

    @AlbinMatt said:
    That is.. scary to say the least. Have this actually gone through?

    i doubt the people who provided the research to EA is the first one to found this method.
    it is most likely that others have found this and kept it a secret

    Well, I doubt rigging things for profit was ever a secret for any business, but it's rather concerning when we're talking about a competitive game, and not stocks or gambling

    Though this system would stem from wanting to promote the lootboxes huh?

    well, not only lootbox, its microtransaction in general.

    people buy microtransaction stuff, give the certain individual a heightened win rate even thought the microtransaction is "Cosmetic" only.

    its just very unethical, Were just hitting on the tip of the iceberg here.

    Hammock - Oh the Bliss (Reinterpretation) | Far Cry 5
                                                                    
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