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New Dev Video: Improved Quick Join

stayfreshshoestayfreshshoe Posts: 673Administrator, Moderator, Developer
edited May 10 in Announcements

Hey all!

Quick Join is getting some upgrades, but that means..

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  • kopyrightkopyright Posts: 598

    Well, that's... underwhelming at best? As much as I welcome the return of min/max servers I don't really see how not being able to queue up with my clan mates will improve our experience.

  • B_MontielB_Montiel Posts: 1,125

    @kopyright said:
    Well, that's... underwhelming at best? As much as I welcome the return of min/max servers I don't really see how not being able to queue up with my clan mates will improve our experience.

    For some people it will definitely lower their experience to say the least. But queuing with your teammates as a full 5 man bunch is like a proper denial of any possible balance.

    This said, try to move a step sideways : join community servers where we generally try to keep team fair when possible, try yourselves on pugs or private matches, that's what you should do when you're grouping up with friends.

  • GatoCommodoreGatoCommodore Posts: 4,386
    edited May 3
                                                       no more ranked                                                                     
    

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  • Mc1412013Mc1412013 Posts: 2,413
    edited May 3

    So um hmmm whats the conversion rates for ranked points to rads i know it wont be 1-1

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  • JonBongNoJoviJonBongNoJovi Posts: 215

    Ah well ,will check back next week to see if it's worth loading up game.

  • bgyoshibgyoshi Posts: 1,208
    edited May 3

    So.. reverting back to how the game was on beta release

    Which didn't work

    Can't queue with friends anymore, again

    Which didn't work

    Bringing back min and max servers

    Which should never have left

    Objective goes back to server browser and stopwatch goes back to quick join

    • Which means players will stick to objective mode servers and ignore Quick Join altogether
    • Because objective mode is fast and Stopwatch is too slow for casual
    • Which is what happened on beta release
    • Which didn't work out in the end
    • Because you couldn't play with friends

    I dunno about anyone else but this update makes me think the devs feel completely defeated from all the aggressively obnoxious players that whine about imbalanced games. They're just reverting the game back to it's original state and hoping things change when 1.0 comes out. But I can assure you, new players are going to come in, want to play on a team with their friends, and not want to have to go through the infinite hoop jumping required to join up PUG servers, find matches, find times to play, find open servers, blah blah blah. And with no way to play with their friends, they'll never break their Overwatch days or their CS: GO days or any of those games that they already play with their friends, and DB will once again fall under their radar.

    I guess we'll just have to see, but I can't see how this move will be anything but immediately damaging to what's left of the casual community. The people that hated CMM don't get anything, since they played server browser anyway. The players that only played for Ranked don't gain anything, as they only played PUG's anyway. The players that queued with friends no longer get to, and will probably just change games.

    While balance algorithms and what have you are changing, people don't leave games because they're imbalanced; they leave games because they aren't winning and can't change teams. I've been in complete stomps with both teams at basically equal player level, and I've been in complete stomps where the team with a vastly lower average rank is stomping. I've been in perfectly balanced games with a strong back and forth that are suddenly losing because one player leaves, and when they become losing games, the rest of the losing team quits too. It's honestly very rare that I ever play a game that starts with a full server and ends with a full server of the same players. 90% of the time, more than half the players at the end of the round are not the same players that started the round.

    Instead of being 100% negative though, let's be fair.

    • In a game with a very low population, optimizing it for solo queuing is ideal
    • Ranked is gone, but with playing competitively being touted as the core of DB, I suspect this means the devs have some plans for making it something good. Going back to the drawing board, growing the PUG and casual tournament community, cherry picking ideas from the communities, then implementing a bigger and better Ranked
    • There's no more mode disparity: 6v6 and/or 7v7 are going to be the dominating modes. I just pray we see more 6v6 in the PUG communities, and a complete abandoning of 5v5 altogether
    • As mentioned, while this is a step back to a time that didn't work out in DB's favor, it looks more like a step back to redesign, and not a step back to give up

    So there's hope I suppose. I hope. I hope there's hope. I'm hopeful!

  • B_MontielB_Montiel Posts: 1,125

    @bgyoshi Stopwatch will still be available through server browser. They just mentioned they'll remove ranked for a stopwatch quick join.

  • _milla_milla Posts: 25

    removing ranked ? why?

  • ThePigVomitThePigVomit Posts: 380

    No ranked = /wrists

    I lived for ranked, even if I did suck at it.

    I have a REAL need to know what the conversion rate will be.

    Will it follow the current pricing in the ranked store? I've got 6000 ranked points that i DO NOT want to fritter away.

    Please give guidance @stayfreshshoe

  • bgyoshibgyoshi Posts: 1,208
    edited May 3

    @B_Montiel said:
    @bgyoshi Stopwatch will still be available through server browser. They just mentioned they'll remove ranked for a stopwatch quick join.

    Yes I know, but hardly anyone played it in the server browser, and few people used Quick Join because it's just automated server browsing. Now it'll find an open server with some parameters filtering it's choice.. but it's still just automated server browsing. Everyone played Obj Mode server browser, that's what they'll do again.

  • kopyrightkopyright Posts: 598

    @B_Montiel said:

    @kopyright said:
    Well, that's... underwhelming at best? As much as I welcome the return of min/max servers I don't really see how not being able to queue up with my clan mates will improve our experience.

    For some people it will definitely lower their experience to say the least. But queuing with your teammates as a full 5 man bunch is like a proper denial of any possible balance.

    This said, try to move a step sideways : join community servers where we generally try to keep team fair when possible, try yourselves on pugs or private matches, that's what you should do when you're grouping up with friends.

    We rarely get a full team of five people together, but chatting with my friends is definitely more entertaining than playing with faceless teammates. I see how this will improve my experience when playing solo, but as a clan game it's getting way less interesting now.

  • B_MontielB_Montiel Posts: 1,125
    edited May 3

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  • Mc1412013Mc1412013 Posts: 2,413
    edited May 3

    @_milla said:
    removing ranked ? why?

    Same reason they said there happy with phantom cuz they dont wanna deal wirh it any more

    First execution then ranked. Whats next stopwatch because some one complained it takes to long to complete or remove obj because its too short and the other team doesnt get to try to blow @$!# up.

    Also does the removal of ranked mean there less interested in calling this a competitve game?

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  • Begin2018Begin2018 Posts: 194
    edited May 4

    Is this real or a late April's fool joke? If it's real, that's the best news we got since YEARS.

    If something is broken, it's better to remove it than keeping it broken. And when (if) you'll have a working Ranked, you'll still can push it when ready.

    Looking at shop prices, I think Ranked points to Rads conversion ratio will be around 1:1, maybe 1:1.1 or 1:1.2.

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  • StIwYStIwY Posts: 52
    edited May 4

    Are you serious ? Removing ranked ? Was working fine, just the algorithm needed some tweaks...like not pairing bronze with golds or high silvers......but no you want to get rid of it ? Time to uninstall i guess.

  • Mc1412013Mc1412013 Posts: 2,413

    How long before we get the execution speech for ranked....
    Just like execution ranked will make a comeback for rentable servers that will be ready for db 2.0 in 3 yrs.

    Hey look i finaly got a sig , and nothing to put here

  • SzakalotSzakalot Posts: 3,250

    Seems okay except removing ranked, really.

    As a temporary fix, sure, but ranked should be back at some point. Maybe as 6v6 or 8v8 lol

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  • XenithosXenithos Posts: 1,755Special Editor

    @Begin2018 said:
    If something is broken, it's better to remove it than keeping it broken. And when (if) you'll have a working Ranked, you'll still can push it when ready.

    That's a very interesting look at life you got there. Musta had great siblings and parents and fellow companions in school.

    I have a REAL need to know what the conversion rate will be.

    Will it follow the current pricing in the ranked store? I've got 6000 ranked points that i DO NOT want to fritter away.

    A number of 8 rads per ranked point has been floating around. I'd let all of those ranked points get converted.> @ThePigVomit said:

    I don't care how much you've played or how good your aim is - If you haven't touched the game at least twice in three months then I see your "opinion" as hot moot.

  • Mc1412013Mc1412013 Posts: 2,413

    @Xenithos said:

    @Begin2018 said:
    If something is broken, it's better to remove it than keeping it broken. And when (if) you'll have a working Ranked, you'll still can push it when ready.

    That's a very interesting look at life you got there. Musta had great siblings and parents and fellow companions in school.

    I have a REAL need to know what the conversion rate will be.

    Will it follow the current pricing in the ranked store? I've got 6000 ranked points that i DO NOT want to fritter away.

    A number of 8 rads per ranked point has been floating around. I'd let all of those ranked points get converted.> @ThePigVomit said:

    8 rads ×6000 ranked points=48000 rads???? That doesnt sound right.

    Hey look i finaly got a sig , and nothing to put here

  • ThePigVomitThePigVomit Posts: 380

    No r> @blufflord said:

    Thanks for the link. Hadn't run across it just yet. Patience carries the day.

    Now, if they'd only settle the weapon polishing mechanic, then I could start chopping at my 300k fragment stash.

  • Mc1412013Mc1412013 Posts: 2,413
    edited May 4

    Damn im glad i saved that 7 day ranked booster for the double ranked points event. Nex few new mercs/obsidians are on them.

    Edit my kid reminded me about my 513k credits so damn i wont need to spend a single cent on anything for a while

    Hey look i finaly got a sig , and nothing to put here

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