Combating the toxic

Hello all;

Question/ call to action for all of you, how do we combat the toxic nature of DB/what can you do to change it.

Lofty goals I know but I tire of the in game community and the racist/homophobic/misogynistic comments. I know there will always be salt and trolls who cry gg ez when it was an unbalanced dumpster fire but I ask how to we curb the vile language and insults this community throws?

This is “my game” meaning I play nothing else, and more and more I see language I just can’t agree with not abide. Curse all you want but words meant to oppress people that aren’t white, or straight, or male is a truly appalling.

How can we as a community stop the advancement of this oppression?

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  • MelinderMelinder Posts: 698

    Stop players getting into this emotional state of mind by properly balancing the game, ensuring that players aren't in a fit of rage 90% of the time they're playing.

    SD Office = Chimp Enclosure

  • bushygbushyg Posts: 231
    edited October 12

    Lol, it's not even that bad compared to some games. Also, it's the internet in general. Anonymity offers people the chance to say stupid @$!# without repercussions, *stupid @$!# like: "...words meant to oppress people that aren’t white, or straight, or male is a truly appalling."

    ~ hudToggle chat

  • K1X455K1X455 Posts: 1,477

    Do the tutorial

  • bontsabontsa Posts: 1,607
    edited October 12

    "muteall" console command also works wonders, as you'll still see (think its a bug though) quickchat so you can keep track of medic calls and whatnot.

    Report function too like Eox mentioned. Soo report -> mute -> enjoy rest of the match. That's basically best thing to do, if everyone would be able to/aware of muting, these single toxicity spewing individuals would be screaming into void. Which, trust me on this one, is the worst thing to happen to them. They're seeking for attention for whatever reason, and not giving that to them in the slightest is really good way of getting rid of the behaviour little by little.

    That or you can follow some other good advice given here by Extra Credits, who also go bit into the reasons and effects of these actions. Worth watching. As you can see some of the things (ie. blaming gamemechanics) already utilized quite far and wide, not only in-game but here in forums too ;)

    Lusting after legends? Fancy for some fiction? Craving for chronicles?
  • GatoCommodoreGatoCommodore Posts: 3,628

    -im tired of slurs

    im tired of bad players claiming they are playing the game while they chat all the time to make the other team responds to their bait.

    Bayonetta OST-Mysterious Destiny

    Bayonetta, you're a mystery
    You come along with a destiny
    This is your life, a battlefield telling you who you are
    Bayonetta, this is your time
    You're gonna sparkle, you're gonna shine
    Girl, when you fight it looks like a dance, you are magic, you're magic

    Come on, come on, come on, there's only one way, your way
    Come on, come on, come on, you know there's only one way, your way
    Dance, fight, spin around, spin around
    Dance, fight, fly higher, fly higher, fly higher

    Bayonetta, you bury your loneliness deep down in your eyes
    Sadness lies in your smile
    But victory shines in your eyes
    You're still alive
                                                                      
  • SorotiaSorotia Posts: 1,368

    @Melinder said:
    Stop players getting into this emotional state of mind by properly balancing the game, ensuring that players aren't in a fit of rage 90% of the time they're playing.

    People are still going to rage...just yesterday me and my entire team got called hackers by some guy who was just a sore loser.

  • XernyXerny Posts: 15

    Mate, every competitive game has it's bad apples, including DB. It's best that you just think they're just some people begging for attention, if they harass you, well the best thing you can do is mute them or just sit back and enjoy watching them dispense you with tons and tons of pure salt.

    hmm... yummy...

  • Open console, type muteall, press enter.

  • GuziolGuziol Posts: 312

    Don't get upset.

  • WintergreenWintergreen Posts: 534

    How do I combat the toxicity? Embrace it and laugh at it. That or just plug my mic' in and then suddenly all the cute talk stops real quick. Maybe I'm just a mean @$!# with a deep voice that sounds old. Works wonders.

  • TheStrangerousTheStrangerous Posts: 1,767

    just ignore them, let them get worked over nothin'.

    Fletcher gettin' Sledgehammer melee supporter.
    More arcadey, less grounded gameplay supporter.

  • STARRYSOCKSTARRYSOCK Posts: 1,232

    @Eox said:
    You can report players throwing a fuss in the game silently. Here's the steps to do :

    1. In a match, press tab to show the players in the server.
    2. Press right click to enable the mouse control.
    3. Hover the player's tab you want to report and press right click.
    4. Select "report this player" and fill the report ticket.

    IMPORTANT NOTE : SD lacks "abusive behaviour" as an option to report players, but they are aware of it. If you want to report misbehaving, use "offensive name" instead.

    Alternatively, you can report them after the game through the in game support by following this link : https://dirtybombsupport.zendesk.com/hc/en-us. Make sure to bring some screenshots as proof of their misbehaviour as well, they will be needed.

    By the way, thank you for reporting abusive players. We don't need mad kids to turn this game into something as toxic as League of Legends or Overwatch. :)

    Can they actually do anything with this though?

    I mean, as far as I know DB doesn't keep record of chats. And even if they did, there's a lot of cancerous behavior that happens outside of chat too. Player targeting, especially with spawn camping and spawn fragging, unfriendly teabagging, etc.

    Without recording that the player is actually doing, there's a large window to abuse this system. Don't like someone? Tell your friends to report them for abusive behavior and such.

    I don't like constantly angry people either, but still.

  • EoxEox FrancePosts: 2,996Moderator

    @STARRYSOCK said:

    @Eox said:
    You can report players throwing a fuss in the game silently. Here's the steps to do :

    1. In a match, press tab to show the players in the server.
    2. Press right click to enable the mouse control.
    3. Hover the player's tab you want to report and press right click.
    4. Select "report this player" and fill the report ticket.

    IMPORTANT NOTE : SD lacks "abusive behaviour" as an option to report players, but they are aware of it. If you want to report misbehaving, use "offensive name" instead.

    Alternatively, you can report them after the game through the in game support by following this link : https://dirtybombsupport.zendesk.com/hc/en-us. Make sure to bring some screenshots as proof of their misbehaviour as well, they will be needed.

    By the way, thank you for reporting abusive players. We don't need mad kids to turn this game into something as toxic as League of Legends or Overwatch. :)

    Can they actually do anything with this though?

    I mean, as far as I know DB doesn't keep record of chats. And even if they did, there's a lot of cancerous behavior that happens outside of chat too. Player targeting, especially with spawn camping and spawn fragging, unfriendly teabagging, etc.

    Without recording that the player is actually doing, there's a large window to abuse this system. Don't like someone? Tell your friends to report them for abusive behavior and such.

    I don't like constantly angry people either, but still.

    As far as I know, they do keep track of chat. Also, spawn camp and teabagging can't be a ban motive. If you are not sure, the old report way through the forums exists, but it asks a bit more efforts (and actual screenshot proof).

  • STARRYSOCKSTARRYSOCK Posts: 1,232

    @Eox said:

    @STARRYSOCK said:

    @Eox said:
    You can report players throwing a fuss in the game silently. Here's the steps to do :

    1. In a match, press tab to show the players in the server.
    2. Press right click to enable the mouse control.
    3. Hover the player's tab you want to report and press right click.
    4. Select "report this player" and fill the report ticket.

    IMPORTANT NOTE : SD lacks "abusive behaviour" as an option to report players, but they are aware of it. If you want to report misbehaving, use "offensive name" instead.

    Alternatively, you can report them after the game through the in game support by following this link : https://dirtybombsupport.zendesk.com/hc/en-us. Make sure to bring some screenshots as proof of their misbehaviour as well, they will be needed.

    By the way, thank you for reporting abusive players. We don't need mad kids to turn this game into something as toxic as League of Legends or Overwatch. :)

    Can they actually do anything with this though?

    I mean, as far as I know DB doesn't keep record of chats. And even if they did, there's a lot of cancerous behavior that happens outside of chat too. Player targeting, especially with spawn camping and spawn fragging, unfriendly teabagging, etc.

    Without recording that the player is actually doing, there's a large window to abuse this system. Don't like someone? Tell your friends to report them for abusive behavior and such.

    I don't like constantly angry people either, but still.

    As far as I know, they do keep track of chat. Also, spawn camp and teabagging can't be a ban motive. If you are not sure, the old report way through the forums exists, but it asks a bit more efforts (and actual screenshot proof).

    Oh god, that means SD's read all the memes I paste in game

  • bontsabontsa Posts: 1,607

    @STARRYSOCK said:
    I mean, as far as I know DB doesn't keep record of chats. And even if they did, there's a lot of cancerous behavior that happens outside of chat too. Player targeting, especially with spawn camping and spawn fragging, unfriendly teabagging, etc.

    Ok ok now hang on a minute there.

    Please don't tell me anyone here actually reports people of spawncamping alone????

    Like sure it can get annoying, but it's legitimate strategy in DB, managin keeping Attackers in spawn for whatever timespawn means they aren't doing the Objective, stopping which is exactly the Defenders entire purpose for crying out loud

    Theres someone excessively trashtalking (remember that "ez game ez life" 2/40 Vassili getting carried by his actually useful teammates? Yea, that freaking kid exactly) and insulting the opposition while spawncamping? Sure blaze ahead but for heavens sake its not the sake of spawncamp you're then reporting them off, but the powertrip they get intoxicated with and start being pieces of utter sh1te of human verbal and mental waste.

    Teabagging??? Don't even get me started on that one, rant over.

    Lusting after legends? Fancy for some fiction? Craving for chronicles?
  • GatoCommodoreGatoCommodore Posts: 3,628

    i thought player targeting is a good strategy?
    knock off the good medic and the high level, the rest will be piece of cake

    Bayonetta OST-Mysterious Destiny

    Bayonetta, you're a mystery
    You come along with a destiny
    This is your life, a battlefield telling you who you are
    Bayonetta, this is your time
    You're gonna sparkle, you're gonna shine
    Girl, when you fight it looks like a dance, you are magic, you're magic

    Come on, come on, come on, there's only one way, your way
    Come on, come on, come on, you know there's only one way, your way
    Dance, fight, spin around, spin around
    Dance, fight, fly higher, fly higher, fly higher

    Bayonetta, you bury your loneliness deep down in your eyes
    Sadness lies in your smile
    But victory shines in your eyes
    You're still alive
                                                                      
  • Lord_CoctusLord_Coctus Posts: 2,032

    I usually just say something salt related.
    Works most of the time.

    Roses are red and violets are blue.
    I bang you all!
    Now you're dead too.
  • GuziolGuziol Posts: 312
    edited October 13

    If you could get punished for being an @$!# and posting @$!# in chat i would have been banned long time ago. I'm a horrible human being filled with hate.

  • Mc1412013Mc1412013 Posts: 1,801

    Just ignore the toxic idiots. There not worth the agravation. I want to enjoy the game. I just mute the idiot and ignore chat

    Hey look i finaly got a sig , and nothing to put here

  • STARRYSOCKSTARRYSOCK Posts: 1,232
    edited October 13

    @bontsa said:

    @STARRYSOCK said:
    I mean, as far as I know DB doesn't keep record of chats. And even if they did, there's a lot of cancerous behavior that happens outside of chat too. Player targeting, especially with spawn camping and spawn fragging, unfriendly teabagging, etc.

    Ok ok now hang on a minute there.

    Please don't tell me anyone here actually reports people of spawncamping alone????

    Like sure it can get annoying, but it's legitimate strategy in DB, managin keeping Attackers in spawn for whatever timespawn means they aren't doing the Objective, stopping which is exactly the Defenders entire purpose for crying out loud

    Theres someone excessively trashtalking (remember that "ez game ez life" 2/40 Vassili getting carried by his actually useful teammates? Yea, that freaking kid exactly) and insulting the opposition while spawncamping? Sure blaze ahead but for heavens sake its not the sake of spawncamp you're then reporting them off, but the powertrip they get intoxicated with and start being pieces of utter sh1te of human verbal and mental waste.

    Teabagging??? Don't even get me started on that one, rant over.

    No, I'm talking about player targeting. A frag in a spawn is an @$!# move imo, but not something you should be banned for, sorry if I worded that poorly.
    I've seen higher level players specifically go out of their way to harass and stalk specific low level players before, some of them who even try to follow them between servers. I had a friend who was targeted this way recently, almost made them quit DB altogether.

    It's not target prioritizing like @GatoCommodore said, it's attempting to bully one specific player just because you don't like them.

  • K1X455K1X455 Posts: 1,477

    @STARRYSOCK said:
    I've seen higher level players specifically go out of their way to harass and stalk specific low level players before, some of them who even try to follow them between servers. I had a friend who was targeted this way recently, almost made them quit DB altogether.

    It's not target prioritizing like @GatoCommodore said, it's attempting to bully one specific player just because you don't like them.

    There was a known hack in STEAM games about that kind of thing but I think STEAM has plugged it up.

  • EoxEox FrancePosts: 2,996Moderator
    edited October 13

    @STARRYSOCK said:

    @bontsa said:

    @STARRYSOCK said:
    I mean, as far as I know DB doesn't keep record of chats. And even if they did, there's a lot of cancerous behavior that happens outside of chat too. Player targeting, especially with spawn camping and spawn fragging, unfriendly teabagging, etc.

    Ok ok now hang on a minute there.

    Please don't tell me anyone here actually reports people of spawncamping alone????

    Like sure it can get annoying, but it's legitimate strategy in DB, managin keeping Attackers in spawn for whatever timespawn means they aren't doing the Objective, stopping which is exactly the Defenders entire purpose for crying out loud

    Theres someone excessively trashtalking (remember that "ez game ez life" 2/40 Vassili getting carried by his actually useful teammates? Yea, that freaking kid exactly) and insulting the opposition while spawncamping? Sure blaze ahead but for heavens sake its not the sake of spawncamp you're then reporting them off, but the powertrip they get intoxicated with and start being pieces of utter sh1te of human verbal and mental waste.

    Teabagging??? Don't even get me started on that one, rant over.

    No, I'm talking about player targeting. A frag in a spawn is an @$!# move imo, but not something you should be banned for, sorry if I worded that poorly.
    I've seen higher level players specifically go out of their way to harass and stalk specific low level players before, some of them who even try to follow them between servers. I had a friend who was targeted this way recently, almost made them quit DB altogether.

    It's not target prioritizing like @GatoCommodore said, it's attempting to bully one specific player just because you don't like them.

    It'll be hard to prove harassment when they're solely made of in game actions. And to be honest I have no clue how you can reliably stalk you on every single servers, especially when you play CMM. But harassment feels indeed like a report motive to me. If he trashtalks the user as well, reporting him won't be an issue, but without that, you might have to make a video through multiple matches or something.

  • EoxEox FrancePosts: 2,996Moderator
    edited October 13

    @Mc1412013 said:
    Just ignore the toxic idiots. There not worth the agravation. I want to enjoy the game. I just mute the idiot and ignore chat

    Purely ignoring the toxic players ins't a solution. We can't let those people in for the sake of preserving the quality of your matches (or at least what can be saved) and making sure that your community doesn't end up like the clusterfucks that are Overwatch's community or League of Legends' community. Heck, if you don't do it for yourself, at least do it so other players don't have to deal with the guy.

    Not responding is a no brainer, but if the player is especially toxic (excessively insulting his own team or the enemies, trolling, throwing the game...) you better report silently the dude. Or at the very least suggest a vote kick if he's in your own team. When it doesn't work, it sometimes calm down a few of them.

    I just wish votekicks were anonymous. Because in their current stats they aren't really anonymous. Your name in thrown in the chat after a vote is emitted as far as I know.

  • bontsabontsa Posts: 1,607
    edited October 13

    @STARRYSOCK said:

    I've seen higher level players specifically go out of their way to harass and stalk specific low level players before, some of them who even try to follow them between servers. I had a friend who was targeted this way recently, almost made them quit DB altogether.

    Well that sounds more like it oight. Report away, I'm just really vary of people misunderstanding games mechanics. Too many special snowflakes and overly sensitive players around nowadays.

    Lusting after legends? Fancy for some fiction? Craving for chronicles?
  • teflonloveteflonlove Posts: 398

    @Eox said:
    As far as I know, they do keep track of chat.

    So why don't the use them to find and warn/ban the people who regularly use "gg ez", racist slurs and what else SD deems inappropriate?

  • henki000henki000 Posts: 253

    I'm sad so say this, but my finger points to innocent childrens. Racist, misogynist and homophobic people usually doesn't concider themselves haters. They need to live or know someone before they understand their absurdity. Atleast it's better than doing it in public or beat someone in school. This is the result of present popular music and pamper culture. It makes me sick to look at Justin Bieber spitting to crowd. Look at the plastic surgery and standard of beauty. This world is spoiled.

  • bgyoshibgyoshi Posts: 845

    Keep reporting and pray SD actually gives a @$!# about it one day.

  • NailNail Wpg, CanadaPosts: 3,373

    the characters in game use what could be considered foul language, the game is rated 17+, mute the offending player and try be less of a victim. Report racist language when you can

    moop
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