New Merc: Guardian

ReddeadcapReddeadcap Posts: 1,296
edited October 5 in General Chat

Guardian is a new Korean Medic, her drone destroys incoming projectiles but cant protect from bullets

Her second ability is a revival pulse, basically its a long range aoe defibrillators.

An interesting change as she seems to have assault rifles considering she has the Hurtsall and no healing abilities.

This begs the question, does she put Sparks put of business?

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  • ReddeadcapReddeadcap Posts: 1,296

    @FishRolls
    I see your point, she can't heal but she's a hard counter to Nader, Fragger, Javelin, Arty, Stoker maybe, Proxy and Fletcher.

    @nokiII true, especially if someone knows how to toss it up and direct hit themselves.

    I guess Guardian serves as both extreme cases, stopping something that kills/injures many teammates and rreviving many Teammates Asap.

  • blufflordblufflord Posts: 578

    Guardian's range seems to be way shorter than sparks?

  • WintergreenWintergreen Posts: 527

    Okay, cool. Already got another thread up for this. She doesn't have defibs, right?

  • ImSplooshImSploosh Posts: 1,145

    I like her, but I just hope that drone ability is done right. The cooldowns/shots to kill need to be done correctly. We also need the Emp grenade to go back on Thunder so we can take the thing out through walls... Would be nice.

    Overall, she looks good at the moment, I just hope she doesn't get ruined like Javelin did. My main gripe is with Javelin's broken Axe, my favorite melee weapon is useless now :'(

  • GatoCommodoreGatoCommodore Posts: 3,625

    @Wintergreen said:
    Okay, cool. Already got another thread up for this. She doesn't have defibs, right?

    she has ranged defib

    her design is so cool

    arty and kira BTFO

    but wait....
    kira laser is not projectile right?

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  • PtilouiPtiloui Posts: 308
    edited October 5

    From the video, the drone seems to have like 100-150hp maybe ?

    The revive ability seems more medium range than long range. Sparks will still be the sniper medic we love. But Guardian + Sparks combo will be stupid.
    On the other hand, Guardian + Aura combo ... omg :open_mouth: Or Guardian + Aura + Turtle xD "Thou shall not pass !"

    And yeah, no heal ability will be awkward to play ^^

  • neverplayseriouneverplayseriou Posts: 1,291
    edited October 5

    Splash Damage does really want to make Turtle+Aura combo more op, gl ever pushing into places such as Underground 2nd stage gen room now...

    And what is this revive ability, 1 step less than a normal medic and probably a stupidly long cd on it? Looks like a merc that's just 100% designed to make the game even more broken.

  • K1X455K1X455 Posts: 1,475

    Her group revive diameter seems to be rather small.... I can imagine Skybro taking out a few opposition in along a line...

    But I like it :)

  • ReddeadcapReddeadcap Posts: 1,296

    @Wintergreen said:
    Okay, cool. Already got another thread up for this. She doesn't have defibs, right?

    She doesn't have a healing ability, she has an anti projectile ability and a mass defib.

  • Lord_CoctusLord_Coctus Posts: 2,032

    She seems like a merc i would enjoy playing a lot.

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  • WintergreenWintergreen Posts: 527

    Yeah, she seems really balanced right out of the gate but I guess we'll see. If she had defibs on top of that aoe heal then I think she'd be pretty overpowered as a medic. Balancing her seems like it'll take nothing more than getting the cooldowns right and the hp on the drone. Sweet. Excited for her.

  • neverplayseriouneverplayseriou Posts: 1,291
    edited October 5

    @Wintergreen said:
    Yeah, she seems really balanced right out of the gate but I guess we'll see. If she had defibs on top of that aoe heal then I think she'd be pretty overpowered as a medic. Balancing her seems like it'll take nothing more than getting the cooldowns right and the hp on the drone. Sweet. Excited for her.

    Did you even watch the video, it's an aoe revive not a heal, she's already stupidly op for anyone with a brain that realises she can be used with an aura/turtle combo...

  • watsyurdealwatsyurdeal Posts: 4,741

    Except that you can still shoot through her little barrier, and the fact she has no healing or self sustain means she is really only good as a backup or secondary Medic.

    Plus, it just said air strikes and projectiles, does that include frags? Cause if not Fragger is still a counter, plus she can be sniped pretty easily.

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  • bushygbushyg Posts: 231

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  • TheStrangerousTheStrangerous Posts: 1,763

    Now DB has it's own version of TF2 short circuit.

    I did not see that coming!

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    @TheStrangerous said:
    Now DB has it's own version of TF2 short circuit.

    I did not see that coming!

    Lol no, nowhere near as that bad

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  • FishRollsFishRolls Posts: 67

    She's korean Jäger

  • MelinderMelinder Posts: 694
    edited October 5

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  • watsyurdealwatsyurdeal Posts: 4,741
    edited October 5

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  • WintergreenWintergreen Posts: 527

    @neverplayseriou said:

    @Wintergreen said:
    Yeah, she seems really balanced right out of the gate but I guess we'll see. If she had defibs on top of that aoe heal then I think she'd be pretty overpowered as a medic. Balancing her seems like it'll take nothing more than getting the cooldowns right and the hp on the drone. Sweet. Excited for her.

    Did you even watch the video, it's an aoe revive not a heal, she's already stupidly op for anyone with a brain that realises she can be used with an aura/turtle combo...

    Yeah, I did watch the video considering I was one of the first few to post said video on here. She has no defibs or alternative way to heal which is what I was getting confirmation on before I felt like she was too powerful. She's like a support/combat medic without any frontline heals that can only revive with an ability we can presume will have a reasonable cooldown. Anyone with a brain will ensure they finish off their kills or prioritize taking her out first in hectic encounters. Maybe try relaxing a bit and take heed of your own name?

  • neverplayseriouneverplayseriou Posts: 1,291

    @Wintergreen said:

    Anyone with a brain will ensure they finish off their kills or prioritize taking her out first in hectic encounters. Maybe try relaxing a bit and take heed of your own name?

    So I say that's anyone with a brain will realise she's op when used with turtle/aura and you use her garbage revive ability as a counter?

    I couldn't care less about her @$!# revive, as I said before anyone with a brain should realise how op she's gonna be when used in a combo with aura and turtle.

  • WintergreenWintergreen Posts: 527

    That's your impression and that's fine. I think the developers have at least halfway functioning brains and thus there's no reason to get all worked up about somethin' that hasn't even been released yet. She seems like she'll take next to no work to keep her reasonably balanced, but only time will tell. Excuse my use of the word 'heal' instead of revive. I knew what the ability was and that's what I was getting at.

  • DemolamaDemolama Posts: 102
    edited October 5

    A medic that cannot heal is a wasted space on the team. Even though sparks can't do a lot of healing she still has the ability.

  • WintergreenWintergreen Posts: 527

    @GatoCommodore said:

    @AlbinMatt said:
    1. Guardian. Really now? Guardian? SD, with such interesting characters can you guys not come up with better names?

    yea we have a guy marking artillery called arty
    we have a guy slinging frag grenade called fragger
    we have a girl with proximity mine called proxy

    you want what? guardy?

    Don't forget queen Nader. Aura who has a healing aura. Thunder makes thunder - sort of.

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